The similar phrase 'Worldly Christianity' is one used by Bonhoeffer. It's J Gresham Machen that I want to line up most closely with. See his Christianity and culture here. Having done commentaries on Proverbs (Heavenly Wisdom) and Song of Songs (Heavenly Love), a matching title for Ecclesiastes would be Heavenly Worldliness. For my stance on worldliness, see 3 posts here.
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10 Doctors of the church



1. Doctor of Grace (Augustine of Hippo)
2. Doctor Angelicus or the angelic doctor (Aquinas)
3. Doctor Subtilis (Duns Scotus)
4. Doctor Invincibilis (William of Ockham)
5. Doctor Mellifluus (Bernard of Clairvaux)
6. Doctor Profundis (Thomas Bradwardine)
7. The heavenly doctor (Richard Sibbes)
8. Doctor Voluminous (John Gill)
9. Doctor Squintum (Whitefield)
10, The Doctor (Lloyd-Jones)

Evangelicals In Wales


Some time in the early 1990s I attended for the one and only time the Bala Ministers Conference. I did not like it. In fact it is hard to think of any aspect I liked (the ministry was fine and the food okay). I didn't like the way we were all squashed into the lounge at Bryn-Y-Groes. I didn't like the noisy prayer meetings or the noisy singing. I didn't find the discussions at all helpful. The emphasis on revival seemed counter-productive to me. To cap it all, sharing a dorm with five snoring men is no joke when you're the last to sleep. So I never went again. I am aware that some of my dislikes have been addressed and I found this new book by Eryl Davies charting the long history of the conference and its distinctives mollifying as it sought to explain and sometimes apologise for some of the failures. Even if you know nothing about the Bala Conference it is worth a read as its apologia for Lloyd-Jones and the things he stood for is winsome, persuasive and well argued and even concessive at some points. I liked the quote from Sulwyn Jones explaining how difficult it is for some men not to refer to Lloyd-Jones when speaking of certain things. It was also good to consider the whole word and Spirit matter again. The reminder about revival was timely for me. It is an odd book in some ways, a hybrid as Dr Davies explains. It would be nice to see a similar book on the Banner of Truth Conference perhaps. Do check it out.

Thank you Joan Bakewell and the MLJ Trust

The famous interview between Joan Bakewell and Dr Martyn Lloyd-Jones from 1970 is now up on Youtube and is well worth a view (over 2000 views already I see). I was surprised to see that it is in colour. So good to see it there.

Lloyd-Jones on depression

I just ordered the book referred to. This is from the Banner website here.
 
In August 1969 Dr. Lloyd-Jones was the principal preacher at the summer Institute of Theology in Pensacola. People today who were there still talk of the nine messages they heard him preach. They were the cream of his sermons, messages he had taken with him around the UK preaching to packed churches. They have now been reprinted, and the following is one of his memorable illustrations in a sermon on the road to Emmaus from Luke 24.

I remember preaching in my homeland of Wales one Sunday in the early 1930s. I was preaching in a country place at an afternoon and then an evening service. When I finished the service in the afternoon and had come down from the pulpit, two ministers came up to me. They had a request to make. They said, 'We wonder whether you'll do us a kindness.'

'If I can,' I said, 'I'll be happy to.'

'Well,' they said, 'we think you can. There's a tragic case. It's the case of our local schoolmaster. He's a very fine man, and he was one of the best church workers in the district. But he's got into a very sad condition. He's given up all his church work. He just manages to keep going in his school. But as for church life and activity, he's become more or less useless.''

'What's the matter with him?' I asked.

'Well,' they said, 'he's got into some kind of depressed condition. Complains of headaches and pains in his stomach and so on. Would you be good enough to see him?'

I promised I would. So after I had had my tea, this man, the schoolmaster, came to see me. I said to him, 'You look depressed.' He was like the men on the road to Emmaus. One glance at this man told me all about him. I saw the typical face and attitude of a man who is depressed and discouraged. I said, 'Now tell me, what's the trouble?'

'Well,' he said, 'I get these headaches. I'm never free from them. I wake up with one in the morning, and I can't sleep too well either.' He added that he also suffered from gastric pains and so on.

'Tell me,' I said, 'how long have you been like this?'

'Oh,' he said, 'it's been going on for years. As a matter of fact, it's been going on since 1915.'

'I'm interested to hear this,' I said. 'How did it begin?'

He said, 'Well, when the war broke out in 1914, I volunteered very early on and went into the navy. Eventually I was transferred to a submarine, which was sent to the Mediterranean. Now the part of the navy I belonged to was involved in the Gallipoli Campaign. I was there in this submarine in the Mediterranean during that campaign. One afternoon we were engaged in action. We were submerged in the sea, and we were all engaged in our duties when suddenly there was a most terrible thud and our submarine shook. We'd been hit by a mine, and down we sank to the bottom of the Mediterranean. You know, since then I've never been the same man.'

'Well,' I said, 'please tell me the rest of your story.'

'But,' he said, 'there's really nothing more to say. I'm just telling you that's how I've been ever since that happened to me in the Mediterranean.'

'But, my dear friend,' I said, 'I really would be interested to know the remainder of the story.'

'But I've told you the whole story.'

This went on for some considerable time. It was a part of my treatment. I said again, 'Now I really would like to know the whole story. Start at the beginning again.' And he told me how he had volunteered, joined the navy, was posted to a submarine that went to the Mediterranean, and everything was all right until the afternoon they were engaged in the action, the sudden thud and the shaking. 'Down we went to the bottom of the Mediterranean. And I have been like this ever since.'

Again I said, 'Tell me the rest of the story.' And I took him over it step by step. We came to that dramatic afternoon — the thud, the shaking of the submarine.

'Down we went to the bottom of the Mediterranean.'

'Go on!' I said.

'There's nothing more to be said.'

I said, 'Are you still at the bottom of the Mediterranean?' You see, physically he was not, but mentally he was. He had remained at the bottom of the Mediterranean ever since. So I went on to say to him, 'That's your whole trouble. All your troubles are due to the fact that in your own mind you are still at the bottom of the Mediterranean. Why didn't you tell me that somehow or another you came up to the surface, that someone on another ship saw you, got hold of you and got you on board his ship, that you were treated there and eventually brought back to England and put into a hospital?' Then I got all the facts out of him. I said, 'Why didn't you tell me all that? You stopped down at the bottom of the Mediterranean.'

It was because this man was dammed up in his mind that he had suffered from this terrible depression during all those years. I am happy to be able to tell you that as the result of this explanation that man was perfectly restored. He resumed his duties in the church and within a year had applied for ordination in the Anglican Church in Wales.

Now I tell you this story simply in order to show you the condition of these men on the road to Emmaus. There they are: 'We had thought . . . but, oh, what's the use of thinking? They tried him and condemned him unjustly. They crucified him. He died, and they buried him. And he's in the tomb.' They are so certain of this that they have become oblivious of everything else and blind to everything else. And I have a fear, my dear friends, that that is the trouble with so many of us. We are so aware of the problems, so immersed in them, that we have forgotten all of the glory that is around us and have seen nothing but the problems that lead to this increasing dejection. That is my analysis of these men on the road to Emmaus.



Published in Setting Our Affections Upon Glory: Nine Sermons on The Gospel and the Church, pp. 73-76 (Crossway Books, 2013).

Preaching and Preachers

I missed the fact that last year was the fortieth anniversary of Dr Lloyd-Jones' brilliant book. This is from the Amazon site:
For over 30 years, Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones ministered at Westminster Chapel in London. Today, he is widely considered one of the greatest preachers of the 20th century. Based on a series of lectures originally given by Lloyd-Jones to the students of Westminster Theological Seminary in the spring of 1969, this collection of essays on the essence of powerful preaching has become a modern classic. Lloyd-Jones defends the primacy of preaching, showing that there is no substitute, and he challenges preachers to take their calling seriously: 'The most urgent need in the Christian Church today is true preaching.' He also provides practical direction on the task of preparing a sermon, sharing insights on the shape and form of a message as well as covering such topics as the use of humor, giving invitations in a message and the preacher's relationship to the congregation. If you can own only one book on preaching, make this the one you read. This 40th anniversary edition includes the original text of Preaching and Preachers along with essays by Bryan Chapell, Mark Dever, Kevin DeYoung, Ligon Duncan, Timothy Keller and John Piper reflecting on the impact this book and the ministry of Lloyd-Jones had on their preaching. This is a book that will continue to speak to a new generation of preachers and teachers for years to come.

Plaque to Lloyd-Jones unveiled


According to the Cambrian News a plaque has been unveiled at the former home of a famous preacher, in Llangeitho, Ceredigion. Dr Martyn Lloyd- Jones, lived in Albion House, in the centre of the village, between 1904 and 1914.
Dr Jones moved to the village with his family when he was six, and attended the village primary school and later Tregaron County School. The plaque was unveiled by his great granddaughter Angharad Marshall. Pictured with her is Dr Gwyn Davies, of Aberystwyth, a lecturer in church history at the Welsh Evengelical School of Theology in Bridgend.
Afterwards, Dr Davies gave a short address on the life of Dr Lloyd-Jones.
My father-in-law tells me it was a shop  in Lloyd-Jones day (there was a famous fire from which he was rescued) and it is a café today. The owners were delighted to have the plaque unveiled. The people planning and organising the event were a couple of local folk, quite unknown to the Welsh evangelical world, just conscious of this famous preacher who had once lived here. He thinks they have been rather naïve in not letting local churches know. The Lloyd-Jones Recordings Trust (who to be fair did announce it on Facebook) gave money for a tea and then the Doctor’s great grand-daughter, Angharad, a final year student in Swansea University, came along with a Christian friend and spoke briefly on behalf of the family (she is one of Bethan Catherwood’s children).
It was a Sunday afternoon in December so only 18 people turned up. If they had planned it for August and the week of the Aber. Conference hundreds would have come there and there would have been some preaching.
I understand that it is part of the Ceredigion Faith Trail although that fact has not been noted on the site yet. In fact if you look up people there, only three are mentioned. Daniel Rowland one expects but Dafydd ap Gwilym and Dylan Thomas are in a rather different category.

Harrison on Engaging with Lloyd-Jones

The book of essays Engaging with Lloyd-Jones has been wanting a thorough review from a pro-Lloyd-Jones vantage point. One is now available by Graham Harrison. Originally given at the Wetsminster Fellowship it is available in a slightly modified form here. It is a thorough, fair, well informed, stimulating and trenchant piece.

Engaging new book on the Doctor

I was very pleased to see this book appear and despite being a slow reader I have already read it. As the book suggests, it is when some years have passed since their death that such great men as Lloyd-Jones undoubtedly was can begin to be assessed. My problem has always been first over what exactly Lloyd-Jones did believe and teach and then whether it was biblical. Tied in with that is the difficulty of disagreeing with such a persuasive man and a sense at times that he was not easy to disagree with. The collection of essays in this book really helped with that and with a few other things too.
There are 11 essays altogether plus an intro, all by evangelical academics. Being mostly of a younger generation and mostly non-separatists the writers (apart from the present and former LTS principals really) cannot at all be thought of as Lloyd-Jones men. Inevitably there is some variation in the quality of the essays although they are all clear and competent and I found the intro and the essays on revival, the charismatic movement and his view of history the most informative and helpful. The book is well footnoted and quite rigorous and although some may want to quibble with conclusions the subject matter looks pretty unassailable. Also very good is the one on Anglican session which for perhaps the first time mentions the many Anglicans who left their denomination in response to Lloyd-Jones's calls. Perhaps the least satisfying essay is the one on fundamentalism.
The book is pretty thorough, though I was surprised to see nothing about the beginnings of the Banner or his falling out with John Murray over the sort of unity Reformed people should aim for. The book is a must for anyone interested in the history of evangelicalism over the last 50 years.

New Lloyd-Jones Book


ENgaging with Lloyd-Jones. Alerted to this by that reading machine the Exiled Preacher. 
(No mention that this is the fruit of a conference some while ago)