The similar phrase 'Worldly Christianity' is one used by Bonhoeffer. It's J Gresham Machen that I want to line up most closely with. See his Christianity and culture here. Having done commentaries on Proverbs (Heavenly Wisdom) and Song of Songs (Heavenly Love), a matching title for Ecclesiastes would be Heavenly Worldliness. For my stance on worldliness, see 3 posts here.
Showing posts with label Mostyn Roberts. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Mostyn Roberts. Show all posts

Great God of Wonders 1


Yesterday, I travelled up once again to the conference centre in Northampton, this time for the biennial theological study conference organised by Affinity. Unusuay we began with a sermon and it was my privilege to preach it. I made the simple point that knowing God and knowing about God are two different things and it is important at a conference like this, on the doctrine of God, that we meet with God not simply stuff our heads with knowledge. My text was Isaiah 6 and I think I made my point.

We had our first paper later. This was presented by Mostyn Roberts and was on The personhood and power of God. The way it works at the TSC is that the papers are all written up and distributed beforehand. Mostyn then presented his paper to us in plenary session before we split into a number of smaller groups to discuss questions. I led one group and we had a good session before a final plenary session.

After tea we had a nice quiz and then chatted away until quite late. Good start.


Aberystwyth Conference 2024 Session 3 (Evening 2)


Our third session, the second evening one, again featured a retired pastor (and once again a London Welshman). Mostyn Roberts has recently retired as the pastor of Welwyn Evangelical Church and is now living in Herefordshire. He preached from Luke 4 on Believing in the real Jesus. The service can be accessed here.

Pastors Coping With Criticism

 


Like proverbial London buses, first no books then two at once. I refer to the subject of the criticism of pastors. Until these recent two I am not aware of any. It was Mostyn Roberts book that I came across first. I then noticed that Joel Beeke had written with Nick Thompson on the same subject so I got that on kindle. Both books have their strengths and weaknesses. Mostyn's book is very brief and focuses tightly on the matter in hand, giving sage and biblical advice. The Beeke book is longer and aims wider and so can be more diffuse and is sometimes guilty of stating the obvious. It is helpful to have such items to help us through this important subject. Both books are warmly commended.

Day Off Week 41 2020


I did the jeans and T-shirt trick again and made a good start to the day. I didn't bother with a to do list as I was clear in my mind that I wanted to get some reading done. One of many character flaws is that I prefer short books and so I read Mostyn Roberts' little book on Coping with criticism in the ministry and John Fesko's The Christian and Technology which I will endeavour to review at some point. I also read a chunk of Hedden Evil by Eryl Davies, a much bigger book (though not very big) which I started last week. I also watched a bit more Scandinavian Tv from Channel 4 and went out for a coffee. I also got one or two other things done.

Carey Ministry Conference 2020 Session 1


Our first paper was from Mostyn Roberts on Roger Williams (1603-1683). He picked up these seven aspects of Williams' approach

1. Liberty of conscience
2. Separation of church and state
3. Respect
4. Persuasion
5. Civility
6. Tenderness
7. Being adventurous

Westminster Fellowship

The Westminster Fellowship continues to meet on the first Monday of the month at Westminster Baptist Church (kindly lent and staffed - Jonathan Arnold is about to become the pastor of the church, good news about which we are very happy).
Last Monday was a good old fashioned discussion day looking at evangelism and worship. About 15 ministers and retired ministers gathered and we soberly discussed our present troubles and joys under the able chairmanship of Mostyn Roberts.
One brother who works overseas but is often with us expressed quite movingly his great appreciation for the fellowship. 
We meet again in February.

Roger Williams

It was good to be at the Evangelical Library today for the latest lunch time lecture. We had a good turn out and a good lecture from Mostyn Roberts on Roger Williams (1603-1683).
Mostyn helpfully guided us through his life her adn in America, where he spent a good deal of time seeking to reach Native Americans. Being turned out od Salem, Masachusetts, he went on to found Rhode Island, which became a haven for the persecuted of all sorts. We were given a summary of his famous 1644 work  The Bloudy Tenant Persecution, for Cause of Conscience, his reply to John Cotton (who, incidentally, wanted the death penalty for thiose who rejected infant baptism). Mostyn stressed to us that it was Williams's desire for peace that chiefly drove him. Clearly in many ways he was ahead of hsi time and a man whose ideas are well worth considering. His understanding of conscience seems to have been very clear indeed.

Roger Williams Lecture

This is a brief reminder that there is an opportunity to hear Mostyn Roberts on Roger Williams at the Evangelical Library on Monday. We start at 1 pm and it will all be over before 2 pm. Come just for the lecture or make a few hours of it and use the Library too. Look forward to seeing you.

Another wedding

Another weekend another wedding! This was the last of three in a row this summer (with one more to come) for us. This time we were just at the wedding itself and it was only up the road in Welwyn, where Luke Jenner has been the assistant to Mostyn Roberts since leaving LTS. He was assigned to us when in LTS. He was marrying Miriam, a member at Castlefields, Derby. Mostyn married them and the pastor from Derby, David Fielding, preached. It was a joy to be there and to meet various people we know and don't know from the various places where Luke and Miriam have connections (Welwyn, Derby, Halifax, London, Aber, etc).

Quiet Blog

It's been a bit quiet here of late but that's because I'm having a very busy week with lots of preparation to do for various things. Sunday went off okay, preaching from Mark 11 and Romans 1 still.
On Monday morning I was involved in a last minute interview at LTS. They started again this week. In the afternoon I chaired the Evangelical Library committee, following our final signing for the new building in Bounds Green. Still lots to do yet. We hope to have our new website up and running shortly. Watch this space.
Tuesday I was in the study working hard until the evening when we were joined by Rhodri, Sibyl and her family for a meal, marking the marriage. I don't think there's a proper name for your son's in-laws. There should be. We had a lovely time together.
Wednesday was all meetings, with visits to two old people's homes where I spoke from Genesis 2 and then the evening meeting in the church, looking at Deuteronomy 31. That was a good time with a decent number present. University is about to start though so we'll be less next week I guess. I also fitted in a lift from the hospital for one of our elderly members and took chance to be with Luke Jenner and his friend, Miriam, who were visiting the newly weds with us. Gwion went to see Chelsea v QPR in the Carling Cup that evening, with a new school friend. 1-0 it was and good fun.
During the day on Thursday, after dropping Owain off I spoke at a ministers fraternal just north of here in Welwyn, where Mostyn Roberts is the pastor. About a dozen ministers (most known to me) and wives gathered for two talks with discussion. I spoke on Christ at God's right hand and the intercession of Christ, which I have been trying to study. It brought home to me how little I understand so far. Picked up a copy of Who made God? by Edgar Andrews. After that we loaded up the car and, after tearful farewells at both homes, I drove Rhodri and Sibyl up to Aber. It was a long but pleasant journey towards a glorious sunset. We stopped at MacDonald's in Shrewsbury en route where Sibyl (vegetarian until 13 ) had here first ever Big Mac! The couple who will study in the University, are staying in the manse until the flat round the corner is available.

LTS at Banner


While at Banner Philip Eveson was keen to snap the many LTSers there together. This one shows over 30 former students, two present students and Robert Oliver (Bradford) and Mostyn Roberts (Welwyn) who are currently lecturers there. Robert Strivens is the Principal designate. Bernard Lewis (Brodgened) was my exact contemporary and Gary Benfold (Bournemouth) was a year ahead of us. Mark Rowcroft (Darlington), Andrew Rowell (Carlisle), Robin Asgher (later my assistant and now in Cranford) and Luke Jenner (Welwyn) attended here while in LTS. Four of us are Aberystwyth graduates (me, Mark, Luke and Ed Collier, now in Sheffield)

Francis Schaeffer

Today was the second of the three lunch time lectures being held at the Evangelical Library, London, this Spring. About 25 gathered in the Bob Sheehan Room to hear Pastor Sheehan's successor at Welwyn Evangelical Church, Hertfordshire, Pastor Mostyn Roberts. His subject was Francis Schaeffer (1912-1984) and was a call not to forget that man's significant contribution from the sixties and seventies but to go back to him again for help in facing some of the challenges of the presnet day, movements such as the emergent church.
Mr Roberts began with a brief overview of Schaeffer's life - his conversion, marriage, brief spell at Westminster Seminary and his involvement in the various splits that took place among fundamentalists in America before his coming to Switzerland to work with Children for Christ. The book True Spirituality was commended to us, a book that grew out of a spiritual crisis he passed through in 1951 and 1952 that eventually led to the establishment of L'Abri and the work that Schaeffer subsequently became known for.
A fascinating section followed where our speaker described his unconverted days in the seventies studying French as a would be existentialist and discovering Schaeffer's Escape from reason, a book that proved important in his eventual conversion. In the eighties and then a lawyer he got to meet the great man himself following a bout of sickness when he picked up adn read He is there and he is not silent and decided to visit L'Abri (a visit that lasted an unexpected 10 days). The blow by blow account of the meeting was appreciated. 'No-one can be the Holy Spirit for you' was a phrase that stuck in Mr Roberts's mind from it. This was three years before Schaeffer's death from cancer. The conversation helped draw Mr Roberts in the direction of the Reformed faith.
The rest of the paper considered Schaeffer and his message for today. An Acts 17 style-evangelist and a man like the men of Issachar commended by the Chronicler, Schaeffer's chief principles were the Lordship of Christ over the totality of life and the centrality of the mind. Four sections considered him as evangelist, as pastor, as 'prophet' and as communicator.
The Schaeffer approach of 'taking the roof off' to expose people's inconsistent thinking and being confident in the unyielding nature of God's created reality was commended as was the idea of the need to bow twice (to God as Creator and to God as Saviour) though not uncritically. A conviction of despair needs to come usually before a conviction of guilt. Men need to see they are dead or lost as well as guilty. Quoting Jim Packer Mr Roberts urged us to accept Schaeffer's 'cartoons' rather than rejecting them because of some faulty details.
Some of the more superficial criticisms of Schaeffer were dismissed and we were encouraged to learn from an admittedly imperfect model.
There was plenty of time for discussion including some filling in of background detail. People seemed generally willing to take the critical but appreciative approach commended. Perhaps one thing that didn't help caheffer in his time was the desire to presnet him as a Christian philsopher. When we see him chiefly as an evangelist and pastor he stands out. His undoubted 'prophetic' insight and skilful communication served only to add to those qualities.
Francis Schaeffer links:
Wikipedia (Some 10 links are given there so I won't repeat them here). You might find this letter from Cornelius Van Til to Francis Schaeffer of interest.